This recording is part 1 of 2 of an interview with Joe J. Bernal on April 30, 1979. Bernal discusses the failed HB 719 from 1967 and clarifies that the bill was not related to bilingual education but rather just the teaching of the Spanish language. Bernal also describes how the government aims to make leaders quiet through acquiescence, citing Hector P. Garcia as changing from a vocal militant to a deal maker.

First recording from 3/22/1979 begins at 0:00 and ends at 31:51. Second recording from 4/30/1979 begins at 31:51 and ends at 40:42.